Void Of Vision: Interview with Jack Bergin

Next weekend will see 41 bands swarm Jubilee Hotel in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, all in the name of Halloween Hysteria. The event features a broad range of music, including familiar names that we’ve covered on Depth before, such as Alpha Wolf, Bad Juju, and Void Of Vision. Jack Bergin, Void Of Vision’s vocalist, kindly took some time with us to talk about Halloween, fear, and new music on the way (yay!).


 

Kel: So, Halloween Hysteria! I don’t know the Jubilee Hotel, but I looked it up earlier and there’s 3 stages?

Jack: Yeah! I think we’re playing the carpark stage, which sounds pretty cool. Nice and industrial and nifty, I guess, for a heavy music venue. I’ve never been there myself. I always like when we play new venues. It’s always a good surprise.

Kel: With the Halloween theme, does that mean that you guys are going to be dressing up?

Jack: We actually just.. it was going on in the group chat yesterday. We’re thinking we’ve got our costumes sorted, but we’re going to swirl it over the weekend and see if we can come up with something cool. I won’t give away any surprises!

Kel: I know, I was thinking that! Like ‘Do I ask? Or do I just let it happen..’.

Jack: [laughs] I can confirm we’ll dress up. Just don’t know as what yet.

Kel: Okay! So do you celebrate Halloween?

Jack: Not personally. I mean I love it. I love horror movies. I love the whole culture behind it over in the US and I think it’s awesome. I’d love to spent a Halloween in the US probably, but here it’s just a stranger concept, I guess.

Kel: I spent a year in Canada on a working holiday and they had front yards decked out. Full on. With moving skeletons and smoke machines and stuff like that.

Jack: That’s so sick. I kind of wish we had it over here.

Kel:  Yeah. It’s interesting. There’s so much fear, with things being put into the treats, for one example.

Jack: It’s pretty full on.

Kel: So, kind of bridging into that, and Halloween, I wanted to talk about fear. What are you most afraid of? Let’s go there.

Jack: Gee that’s a big question.

Kel: It is. Too big maybe..

Jack: [laughs] Yeah. I think it’s really the future, and how unpredictable everything is. I mean, everything in life is so unpredictable. You can never call where you’ll be in five years, or even two and a half years from now. You never know. That’s the thing. And I think that’s pretty scary to think about. You don’t know what could happen to people around you, let alone yourself. I tend not to think about it and sort of live life, just take it as it comes. But yeah, it’s always in the back of peoples’ minds, I think. It’s a pretty full-on sort of thought to think about once you get in deep to it.

Kel: Definitely. With that too, with the unknown and things that could happen, I feel like – from where I’m sitting anyway – that you guys have kind of lived out the opposite of that. Where you’ve had something like the EP [Disturbia] really take off, which you might not have predicted.

Jack: Yeah, 100%. I think it’s not necessarily always a bad thing, fear. You always have fear going into new things, and I feel like especially releasing that EP we were definitely scared. We’re releasing new music soon and we’re even scared about that. I feel like being a musician, release campaigns always involve a lot of stress and anxiety which leads to fear. It’s a tough sort of attitude to have. I guess when it does turn out for the better, like obviously as Disturbia did, it really makes it worthwhile. I feel like the fear contributes to the end result and how satisfied you are with everything, so that’s always cool too.

Kel: Yeah, it’s funny that, isn’t it? When you mention that, I was thinking about all the times I’ve been really anxious about something and it makes me treat it differently.

Jack: 100%. You treat it so much more delicately, I feel.

Kel: Yeah! And then because of that anxiety, it turns out maybe a bit better than it would have without it. [laughs]

Jack: [laughs] Yeah 100%, it definitely contributes to the final result.

 

Kel: Yep. So with Disturbia, was there fear with that going into the themes of the songs in it?

Jack: I feel it more so as taking a step back to what we were sort of establishing before we released Children Of Chrome. We kind of genre-flipped, if you will. Like we gave Chrome a really experimental, like everything we possibly could think we sounded like. And then we decided ‘Let’s just bring it back to the basics’, and where we left it off. And I guess we released Disturbia, as in we released Broken // Bones, and then the next agenda in the discography would be Disturbia. It’s kind of like we’re.. as sad as it is, like we’re forgetting about Chrome, and taking it off from where we were last.

Kel: Okay. I’ve honestly got into you guys fairly freshly, so I don’t know your earlier stuff so well. When you guys were playing music before, would you describe it as this high energy take on things like you express in Disturbia?

Jack: Yeah, 100%. I feel like it was a lot more true to our influences almost. Like, the way we started playing music, sort of. We’re really comfortable with that particular style, with a heavier wave behind it. We always started off heavier, so it was good to evolve back to that. I think now that we’ve got a lot of breathing space, now that we’re so comfortable with what we’re writing, we can feel free to add some twists on it, but still keep that same Disturbia sound and feel.

Kel: So you said that with the Children Of Chrome album it was like an experiment to see what else you could do, aside from your roots?

Jack: Yeah, bigtime. In hindsight it was pretty bold to have our first album so experimental, but I am glad we got to do it. There’s no way I’m not happy with how Chrome turned out, because we got to do crazy stuff off it. Like we got to go to Europe and do some big profile venues in Australia. It was still a great ride and it’s got a lot of memories attached to it, but I feel like from here on in, Disturbia is how we’re going to take it.

Kel: Yeah, cool! That sounds good. I love the EP. With the music you’re working on, is it a full length album?

Jack: Yeah! We’re currently writing a full length for #2 and we’re just going to keep going until we’re 100% happy with it. Until it’s the best we can make it be. I feel like we really want to make this album #2 stand out and be The One. We’ve been working on it for the majority of the year since we got back from Europe. We’re very keen to show people what we’ve been working on, because we’re very stoked with it.

Kel: With the album, how do you keep that same Disturbia vibe?

Jack: We keep it pretty similar, actually. I think what made Disturbia so special was the co-writing aspect. It breathed new life into James for sure. When he got to work alongside Jon [Deiley] from Northlane for a couple of the tracks, he was just blown away. It just brought a whole new level of how you perceive music really. [laughs] I feel like it’s definitely reflected upon his writing and his new stuff. He thoroughly enjoys writing now and just structuring music, and all of that stuff. I’m excited for him because he’s turned into a very integral part of the writing aspect now, and I think that reflected heavily in Disturbia and I’m keen to see how it reflects in future material as well.

Kel: Cool! So is this upcoming one also involving co-writing?

Jack: We’ll have a little something out before the end of the year, and there was a bit of co-writing on that too. James went back to Jon and dug some ideas up with him and basically from here on in, it’ll be solely ourselves writing the rest of the album. It was a bit of motivation to get us out of the little slump we were in for writing. It definitely helped because we’ve been going pretty hard at it since the halfway mark of the year.

 

Kel: So that ‘little something’ that’s coming out: There’s not much time left until the end of the year…

Jack: Yeah that’s it. So it must be very soon…

Kel: It must be… [laughs] Can you tell us when?

Jack: [laughs] Unfortunately not before Halloween Hysteria, but yeah. [laughs]

Kel: I’m excited! Will you be continuing some of the themes that were in Disturbia? Some of those topics relating to toxic people and rebuilding and stuff like that?

Jack: Yeah, definitely. I think we’ve basically found our topical favourites, you would say, and I guess continuing on on those sort of things. I mean we’re still pretty young people and learning as we go, and I think the whole experience of learning has definitely contributed a lot to how the lyrics come out. I know it’s always evolving and that sort of thing, but yeah I think learning is very hard, and as we were talking about, fear is a very big aspect of a lot of the lyrics on the album actually. I’m obviously still learning a lot in life and I think reflecting that throughout the lyrics, and I guess the fear that’s doing it for it is definitely making them come out as honest as ever. I’m really excited to share them.

Kel: That’s really cool. Would you say you’re getting more honest with the lyricism?

Jack: Yeah, 100%. I found it difficult to, initially, because obviously it’s a really daunting idea; unfolding to the world. It’s almost comforting now. It’s a very cathartic experience for me, and I love doing it.

Kel: Yeah! Would you be thinking about how many MORE people are seeing this now, compared to with the first album?

Jack: To be honest I forget about it. I just sort of try not to think about it now. I just release it as it would be. I don’t know where along the line I just stopped thinking about it, but it definitely made the process a whole lot easier. [laughs] I’m sort of being more honest in the music.

Kel: Yep. I know mine’s small potatoes in comparison to yours, but I always feel better when I think ‘No one’s going to read it’, so I can just do whatever. [laughs]

Jack: Oh 100%, it’s so great. [laughs] Pretty much, and it always turns out better. Like you said with the fear thing, you just give it a whole new level of honesty, or just personal flavour, and it turns into something more special than it could have been.

Kel: Exactly, because people are going to feel that authenticity or whatever that may not have been there if you’d been withheld.

Jack: Yeah, that’s it.

Kel: So you guys also have Good Things Festival around the corner too!

Jack: Yeah, that’ll be a big one. I’m very excited for that.

Kel: Okay so I’m going to poke for more clues. Is the new thing coming out before Good Things?

Jack: It will be out before Good Things, yes. [laughs]

Kel: [laughs] Okay, we got something!

 

Kel: With regards to festivals, I saw you guys at Unify and it’s a really high energy stage show that you do, which is really cool. I’m just wondering how you prep yourself for something like that?

Jack: I don’t know what it is, but those big stages just make you feel just.. I don’t know if it’s the more room thing, on the stage, but you just feel like there’s so much more opportunity there, as opposed to playing the smaller stages that we’re used to. And I think it brings a whole new level of excitement to myself and the guys. And I think bringing that into Good Things is one of the reasons why we’re looking forward to it, because yeah, like you said, Unify was just so much fun and such a wild experience. It’s very rare to come across, so I feel like we take these big stage events a lot more seriously and with a lot more energy than usual. You’ve got half an hour up there to show a lot more people than you usually play in front of what you’ve got, so you’ve got to take it by the throat and just really show them what you’ve got.

Kel: You definitely did that. Climbing up the scaffolding and stuff like that. [laughs]

Jack: [laughs] Yeah, that’s it. I keep forgetting I did that. I heard from one of our friends that as soon as I started climbing it, the guy in charge of the rigging or whatever pulled out an incident report and started writing it up.

Kel: [laughs] Oh wow.

Jack: Because apparently something similar had happened a month before that, where someone had actually fallen off something and injured themselves quite seriously, so [laughs] I feel like that really added to the experience afterwards.

Unify Gathering 2018, shot by Rowan Donohue.

 


 

With our time having run out, I left my chat with Jack very keen for the ‘little something’ and more Void Of Vision goodness on the way; on stage and music wise. Catch whatever (costumed) antics Void Of Vision get up to at Halloween Hysteria by reserving your ticket HERE.

 

Kel Burch

Creator and caretaker of Depth Mag, Kel uses her superpowers of empathy, word-weaving, and feeling everything deeply, to immerse herself in music before returning to reality to write about her experience with it.

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